Former NIH metabolism scientist Dr. Kevin Hall walks through decades of his own research on whether carbs or fat are "uniquely fattening," tracing the calorie-is-a-calorie idea back to a century-old dog experiment. He explains why his controlled feeding studies show only tiny (100-200 kcal/day) differences between low-carb and low-fat diets, then reveals the result from his ketogenic vs. low-fat vegan ad-libitum study: people ate significantly more on keto, driven by energy density, not macronutrients. If you're weighing low-carb vs. low-fat for fat loss, this reframes what actually matters. Stream the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/YWm386QmqFw Or listen on your favourite podcasting platform: https://theproof.com/food-and-weight-loss-dr-kevin-hall/ Want to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit https://theproof.com/friends/. • The Proof with Simon Hill - https://theproof.com/podcast/ • Book: The Proof is in the Plants - https://theproof.com/book/ • Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-proof-with-simonhill/id1367773989 • Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7bAIJCVgnquxXZuQCdZyTi • Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/theproof/ • Twitter - https://twitter.com/theproof • Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/theproofwithsimonhill • Plant-Based Ferments Guide - https://theproof.com/ferments/ • Two-week meal plan - https://theproof.com/mealplan/ • Plant Performance - https://theproof.com/plant-performance/ • Use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends.

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