Today I explore how dairy fits into a healthy diet, and why context matters. We examine the evolutionary story of lactase persistence, the idea that dairy is discretionary rather than essential, and how recommendations can shift depending on the overall dietary pattern. We discuss when full-fat might seem preferable to low-fat, why low-fat with added sugar is a bad bargain, and where fermented options like yoghurt and cheese may differ. This segment also looks at the “instead of what” framing and the Harvard view that dairy fats may fare better than those in red meat but not as well as unsaturated fats from olive oil, nuts, seeds or fatty fish. Stream the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/GEoAu-GrW_Q Or listen on your favourite podcasting platform: https://theproof.com/the-good-and-the-bad-of-the-new-us-dietary-guidelines-dr-david-katz/ Want to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit https://theproof.com/friends/. • The Proof with Simon Hill - https://theproof.com/podcast/ • Book: The Proof is in the Plants - https://theproof.com/book/ • Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-proof-with-simonhill/id1367773989 • Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7bAIJCVgnquxXZuQCdZyTi • Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/theproof/ • Twitter - https://twitter.com/theproof • Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/theproofwithsimonhill • Plant-Based Ferments Guide - https://theproof.com/ferments/ • Two-week meal plan - https://theproof.com/mealplan/ • Plant Performance - https://theproof.com/plant-performance/ • Use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends.

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