AI is separating home service operators into winners and losers right now. Here's exactly where the gap is widening — and how to be on the right side. John Wilson sits down with Tyson Chen (Founder of Avoca) to cut through the noise on AI in home services — no hype, just what's actually being deployed inside HVAC, plumbing, and electrical businesses right now. From PE-backed companies unlocking millions in efficiency to independent contractors closing $15,000 after-hours jobs straight from their website — the operators who move first are pulling away fast. In this episode: → Why "AI-native" operators are scaling faster — and what separates them → Real use cases in dispatch, call centers, marketing, and capacity planning → Where AI drives the biggest ROI (and where it breaks) → How the gap between operators is widening — and how to close it If you run an HVAC, plumbing, or electrical business and you're not thinking about this, you're already behind. Host: John Wilson https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbwilson1/ Guest: Tyson Chen https://www.avoca.ai/partners/oao ⏱️ Chapters: 00:00 AI in the Trades 06:18 Agentic Workflows and Cost Savings 13:39 Tuck In Acquisitions and Centralization 21:50 Small vs Big AI Adoption 28:37 Agents Over CRMs 38:12 Avo Launch and Wrap Shout Out to FieldPulse 🚀 FieldPulse is an incredible Field Service Management platform that helps you save hours each week while keeping your operations running smoothly. If you're looking to streamline your processes, stay competitive, and focus on what truly matters, FieldPulse is a game-changer! 📅 Book your demo: [https://www.fieldpulse.com/book-demo?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=OwnedandOperated&_bhlid=adde1d4b7623ada1146dde2ba3cf7bd06624cb4a] 🛒 Extra Special Thanks to Contractor Commerce! Contractor Commerce turns your website into a 24/7 sales engine for service contractors. With guided pricing, online service and membership sales, and deep system integrations, your site pre-qualifies customers before the phone ever rings. One contractor generated a $15,000 service sale after hours — straight from their website. Visit contractorcommerce.com Book a demo to see how Contractor Commerce turns your website into a 24/7 sales and qualification engine. 💸Sponsored by CFO Made Easy Built a strong trades business? Let’s take it to $10M and beyond. CFO Made Easy offers part-time CFO services for home and trade service businesses—helping you boost cash flow, maximize profit per tech, and make clear growth decisions. 📈 Free Offer: Book a 45-min Financial Insight Session to uncover growth blockers. [https://cfomadeeasy.com/owned/] 🎙 Owned & Operated — Apple Top 200 Business & Entrepreneurship https://www.ownedandoperated.com/

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