In this episode, I’m talking about a part of hiring that doesn’t always get the attention it deserves: the reference call. A solid resume might get someone in the door, and a strong interview can build real momentum—but when you’re making a final decision, references often give you the clearest picture of what it’s actually like to work with that person day-to-day. I share how I approach reference checks as part of a thoughtful, professional hiring process. One of the most revealing questions I ask is, “Would you rehire this person?”—because it cuts through the polished talking points and gets to the heart of performance, reliability, and fit. I also explain what I listen for in the pauses, the specifics (or lack of specifics), and the way supervisors or colleagues describe collaboration and trust. Finally, I reflect on how professional networks and trusted voices can help clarify close decisions—while still keeping these conversations respectful, confidential, and grounded in what’s best for students and the team.