In this episode of Wine Voices, I’m back with Jane Anson for part two of her conversation with Hubert de Boüard of Château Angélus—an unusually candid look at why Angélus chose to leave the Saint-Émilion classification. Hubert describes how emotional the decision was for him, how long the family debated it, and why his daughter Stéphanie ultimately pushed for clarity and focus. What comes through is that this wasn’t about rejecting Saint-Émilion—Hubert calls the classification “in my blood”—but about stepping away from something that had become increasingly rule-bound and, in his view, a distraction from the work in the vineyard and cellar. We also dig into what matters most to him in today’s Bordeaux: human connection, travel, and being close to the consumer. He’s blunt about Bordeaux needing to “overturn the table” and reconnect with a generation it lost—while staying humble in a world where other regions have improved fast. On the wine itself, Hubert points to 2016 as a key turning point: a classic Bordeaux year that captures the direction he and Stéphanie share—more purity, freshness, harmony, and tannin quality, not sheer extraction. Along the way there are personal touches too: South Africa’s pull (Klein Constantia), resilience through criticism, and his favorite Saint-Émilion spots for visitors.