End chaos in your firm—300+ peers use this framework. Free video here: https://www.businessofarchitecture.com/framework In this episode, Rion Willard sits down with TJ Lyons to explore a side of practice growth that many architects find unclear or uncomfortable. Instead of relying on presentations or personality, TJ shares a more focused way to approach business development—one built on clarity, intent, and better conversations. They unpack what really happens in client meetings, why so many firms sound the same without realizing it, and how a small shift in approach can change who you attract. The discussion also touches on a deeper issue inside the profession: why selling feels difficult, and how that mindset shapes results. If you have ever left a meeting unsure what happened, felt stuck competing on fees, or questioned how to reach better clients, this episode offers a fresh perspective worth hearing. Why the way architects open conversations can quietly shape the outcome The subtle difference that makes some firms stand out—without saying more What effective business development feels like when it’s done right To learn more about TJ, visit his website: http://www.cubedbd.com 00:00 Intro 03:12 Why Architects Who "Just Need to Get in Front of Clients" Keep Losing 07:45 The Men in Black of Architecture: How TJ's Team Works in the Shadows 12:20 Stop Selling, Start Asking: The Question Framework That Wins Work 17:33 Why Focusing on 50 Clients Beats Chasing Every Developer in the Room 22:10 The RIBA Rule from 1931 That Still Cripples Architects Today 26:45 Why Your Website Looks Identical to Every Other Firm's (And What to Do) 31:18 The £250K Architect With 4 Staff: Proof the Race to the Bottom Is a Choice 35:02 Why Putting Technical People in Business Development Roles Always Fails 39:27 Don't Show Your Deck: The First Meeting Rule That Changes Everything 43:15 The Upfront Contract Trick That Eliminates "We'll Think About It" 47:00 Why Introverts Are Secretly Better at Winning Work Than Extroverts 51:30 Sales Is Like Boxing: Why a One-Day Course Will Always Fail You 55:44 Start With the Developer's Business Case, Not Your Design Agenda 59:12 How TJ Built His Exact Dream Client List From Scratch (And You Can Too) 1:03:40 Stop Waiting for Referrals: The System That Puts You in Control of Growth

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