In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss whether middle powers should be investing in military cyber capabilities. Show notes: - The Record on Iranian air defences, https://therecord.media/iran-nuclear-cyber-strikes-us - Max Smeets No Shortcuts, https://www.hurstpublishers.com/book/no-shortcuts/ - RunZero sponsor interview, https://risky.biz/RBNEWSSI115/

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