Nick Thompson — CEO of The Atlantic and author of the new book The Running Ground: A Father, A Son, and the Simplest of Sports — joins Michael Doyle to discuss how he became faster in his 40s and why the pursuit unlocked deeper truths about grief, trauma, psychology, and the lifelong bond between parents and children. Nick also breaks down the training, super shoes, threshold workouts, central governor theory, heart-rate strategies, data, AI, ultra racing, and what it takes to unlock speed as a master athlete. This conversation is raw, emotional, deeply nerdy — and one of the most inspiring stories we’ve ever had on the Marathon Handbook Podcast. This episode is brought to you by the Wahoo’s KICKR RUN – go to https://wahoofitness.com and use promo code MHRUN to get 25% OFF FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY, plus a free $319 KICKR Headwind Fan with your treadmill order! TIMESTAMPED CHAPTERS: 00:00 – Intro: Why Nick Got Faster in His 40s 00:34 – Introducing Nick Thompson & The Running Ground 02:04 – Origin Story: How the Book Began 04:09 – Cancer, Psychology & Post-Traumatic Growth 06:06 – Writing About His Father: Fear, Complexity & Memory 07:15 – Nick’s Father’s Extraordinary Life Story 09:39 – Chaos, Identity & the Father–Son Relationship 11:59 – Midlife, Loss & Running Fast After Bereavement 13:24 – Unlocking Speed After 40 13:37 – Ad Read: Wahoo KICKR Run Treadmill 16:19 – Modern Running History & 1982 NYC Marathon 18:22 – Bobby Gibb, Journalism & Unexpected Connections 20:30 – Research, Failed Leads & Finding the Right Characters 22:23 – Five Years of Work: Archival Digs & Emotional Depth 23:05 – Training Changes That Worked 24:59 – Mileage, Thresholds & Systematic Structure 26:54 – Diet, Supplements & What Actually Helped 28:59 – Shoes, Gear & Heart-Rate Training as a Superpower 31:10 – The Central Governor Theory 32:45 – Future Tech: AI, HRV, Data & Medical Insights 34:49 – Heat Training & The “Poor Man’s Altitude” 35:37 – Nanotech, Ethics & Performance Interventions 37:16 – The Judson Cake Connection 38:35 – Michael Westphal’s Story: Running Through Parkinson’s 43:06 – Westphal Today & A Visit That Changed Everything 45:05 – When Nick Knew the Book Was Finished 47:12 – Turning 40, Midlife Pressure & Avoiding His Father’s Fate 50:49 – His Father’s Unfinished Memoir 52:03 – Forgiveness & Reconciling the Past 53:21 – What Running Means for Nick Now 55:10 – A Brutal NYC Marathon & His Son’s Reaction 56:09 – Chasing Records & What’s Next 58:01 – Will He Write Another Running Book? 59:40 – Closing Thoughts & Book Recommendation 1:00:38 – Outro: Newsletter, Podcasts & YouTube Updates 📩 Questions about training, race previews, or to send us your hot takes? Email us at podcast@marathonhandbook.com. 🎤 Leave us a voice memo for our mailbag episodes: marathonhandbook.com/podcast 📸 Instagram: @marathon.handbook 📘 Facebook: @marathonhandbook 📰 Join 265,000+ runners getting our daily newsletter: marathonhandbook.com/newsletter 👍 Like, subscribe, and drop your questions in the comments. 🎧 Audio version available wherever you get podcasts + watch the video version on Spotify. 📺 Subscribe on YouTube for weekly running deep dives. #NickThompson #RunningAfter40 #MarathonTraining #MasterAthlete #RunningMotivation #MarathonHandbook #RunningPodcast #runningbooks #nicholasthompson #TheAtlantic #runninglit

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