Foreign Affairs invites you to listen to its podcast, the Foreign Affairs Interview. This episode with Ian Bremmer and Mustafa Suleyman was originally published on September 7, 2023. Ever since the company OpenAI unveiled ChatGPT last year, there have been constant warnings about the effects of artificial intelligence on just about everything. Ian Bremmer, the founder of the Eurasia Group, and Mustafa Suleyman, founder of the AI companies DeepMind and Inflection AI, highlight what may be the most significant effect in a new essay for Foreign Affairs. They argue that AI will transform power, including the power balance between states and the companies driving the new technology. Policymakers are already behind the curve, they warn, and if they do not catch up soon, it is possible they never will. Sources for the episode: “The AI Power Paradox” by Ian Bremmer and Mustafa Suleyman https://www.foreignaffairs.com/world/artificial-intelligence-power-paradox “The Technopolar Moment” by Ian Bremmer https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/world/ian-bremmer-big-tech-global-order The Coming Wave: Technology, Power, and the Twenty-first Century's Greatest Dilemma by Mustafa Suleyman https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Wave-Technology-Twenty-first-Centurys/dp/0593593952

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