How to Actually Use AI to Your Advantage — with the Co-Founders of Gamma & NotebookLM

In this episode, Gamma and NotebookLM co-founders Grant Lee and Steven B. Johnson dig into why many creatives resist AI; and why that instinct may be misguided. They explore how AI works best as a thinking partner, helping unblock creativity, accelerate idea exploration, and support writers, educators, and knowledge workers in producing more original work without replacing human judgment, taste, or craft. Timestamps: 0:00 — Creatives resisting AI (analog vs digital mindset) 1:00 — AI framed as “cheating” by recent graduates 1:35 — “AI makes me more original” argument 4:15 — Practical creativity: jokes and idea sparks