What if the scuba diving industry has been missing something critical — and two people just figured out how to fix it? Dr. Calina Ouliaris and Simon Lugan, cofounders of Journey Underwater, have developed a groundbreaking wellness framework that’s reshaping how divers learn, breathe, and reconnect with their minds underwater. Their approach — the “Dive In” Framework (also an official PADI specialty course) — challenges the dive industry to go beyond physical safety checklists and finally address the mental and psychological well-being of both students and instructors. In this full-length interview with Calina, we explore: Why traditional dive training is leaving a critical gap in diver wellness How the “Dive In” framework transforms learning environments and the significance of pre/post-dive briefings. The role of pace, mindfulness, and internalized safety in building a sustainable dive community. Why this movement could literally save scuba diving 🗺️ Filmed entirely on location at Fitzroy Island, off the coast of Cairns, Australia — one of the most stunning corners of the world, and along the Great Barrier Reef. It was a personal bucket-list destination. Nearly all the clips were shot in the field, with real participants going through the program. The little bit of wind you’ll hear, the waves, the reef — it’s all real. If you care about the future of diving, diver mental health, or wellness-integrated adventure sports, I think you’ll love this episode. @journey-underwater https://www.journeyunderwater.com/ — Kenny Dyal is the host of The Scuba Diving Podcast: www.sweetwaterscuba.com

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