Jefferson Fisher uses a simple metaphor to explain communication. Imagine a string between two people in conversation. For real connection, it needs to stay tight. The moment you check your phone, that string goes slack. Even having a phone on the table changes the dynamic, because it signals divided attention. He argues that real presence means putting the device away completely and giving someone your full focus. When was the last time you had a conversation with no phone in sight? #podcast #trust

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