Ryan Pineda and Brian Davila host Nathan Apffel in a heated debate over mega churches, pastor salaries, tithing, legal loopholes, transparency, corruption allegations, and whether institutional Christianity needs structural reform or defense. Connect with Nathan - https://www.instagram.com/religionbusiness/?hl=en www.youtube.com/@thereligionbusiness https://www.instagram.com/nathan_apffel/?hl=en __________ If you want to start your real estate investing business, we'll give you 1:1 coaching, seller leads, software, & everything you need. https://www.wealthyinvestor.com If you're a business owner who wants to get in peak physical shape we can help! https://www.boardroom-athlete.com/apply Join our private mastermind for elite business leaders who golf. https://www.mastermind19.com Join free Bible studies and workshops for Christian business leaders. https://www.tentmakers.us __________ CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Introducing Nathan Apffel & The Mega Church Debate. 12:48 - Donor Accountability & Who Church Boards Really Protect. 22:35 - The “Broken System” Argument Explained. 31:10 - Are Mega Churches Actually Bearing Fruit? 40:27 - The Holy Spirit vs The Institutional Church. 52:14 - Church Legal Loopholes Exposed. 1:09:26 - Is the Mega Church Model Bearing Fruit? 1:22:30 - Reforming the Legal Architecture of the Church 1:28:28 - Is Tithing Still Required Today? 1:45:46 - Murder, Money & Church Corruption Allegations 1:49:13 - Mega Churches vs Small Churches: Who’s Doing the Real Work?

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