In this man on the street interview, we talk with Derek McGowan, about what lead gen plays are actually working right now for loan officers in 2025 - especially after the rate whiplash of 2020–2021 changed buyer behavior. Derek breaks down the real channels driving consistent leads (database + realtor referrals), why education marketing matters more than ever, and how to stand out on the first touch by making every conversation about the client — not a canned script. He also shares the simple follow-up system that saves hours, plus how he’s using AI behind the scenes as the “glue” to keep deals from slipping through the cracks. - The 3 lead sources Derek is leaning on most in 2025 (database, realtor referrals, online presence) - How to market when rates spike and buyers freeze (education wins) - The “shiny object” trap — and why implementing ONE idea beats collecting 20 - Hidden opportunities: what most people overlook (especially past clients + warm relationships) - First-touch differentiation: tailoring your approach to investors vs lifestyle buyers - Why Derek duplicates FAQs into social content + sends recaps so clients can replay it at home - The follow-up-date rule that keeps your pipeline from leaking - How to use AI internally (not client-facing) to automate busywork and create a “domino effect” Follow Derek McGowan: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mcgowanmortgages/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-mcgowan Website: https://www.mcgowanmortgages.com/ #PropertyRadar #MortgageBroker #LoanOfficer #LeadGeneration #RealtorReferrals #DatabaseMarketing #MortgageMarketing #RealEstateMarketing #AIForBusiness #FollowUp #NEXAMortgage

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