Clipse’s Pusha T & Malice Break Down ‘Let God Sort Em Out’ and Years of Drama

For over two decades, Pusha T and Malice — the brothers in the rap duo Clipse — have been hip-hop’s purists, the moralists, the keepers of a traditionalist flame that remains alive with possibility. Returning with their first album in 16 years, “Let Got Sort Em Out,” there was frustrating territory to navigate. The duo spoke to Popcast hosts Jon Caramanica and Joe Coscarelli about making their new album, and all the drama along the way. Clipse earned five 2026 Grammy nominations for “Let Got Sort Em Out" and ultimately took home the award for best rap performance (for “Chains & Whips,” featuring Kendrick Lamar and Pharrell Williams). This was the duo’s first-ever Grammy win. Follow Jon: https://twitter.com/joncaramanica https://www.instagram.com/joncaramanica Follow Joe: https://twitter.com/joecoscarelli https://www.instagram.com/joecoscarelli/ Listen to every Popcast ever https://www.nytimes.com/popcast Every episode of Popcast (Deluxe) on YouTube https://tinyurl.com/PopcastDeluxe Popcast Discord! https://tinyurl.com/PopcastDiscord Popcast Facebook! https://tinyurl.com/PopcastFacebook Popcast t-shirts & stickers http://itsthepopcast.myshopify.com Subscribe: http://bit.ly/U8Ys7n More from The New York Times Video: http://nytimes.com/video