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$2B Founder Explains How to Grow a Business with AI in 33 Minutes

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*Steal These Workflows: 7 AI tools to build your startup in days, not months* https://clickhubspot.com/mga Ep. 383 How AI Startups are Scaling with Half the Team (And What You Can Steal) Kipp and Kieran sit down live at GROW Europe with Grant Lee (CEO) and Kristin Fracchia (Marketing) from Gamma to break down how they built a $2B AI company with just 50 people. This is your master class in building lean, high-growth AI teams using workflows and org design that actually work. Whether you're building an AI startup, learning how to grow your business with AI, or trying to understand AI agents and automation, this episode reveals the systems behind how AI is transforming team structure and go-to-market strategy. Mentions Growing a startup? Get the tools, education, and support you need with HubSpot for Startups. Exclusive discounts + a full growth platform: ⁠https://www.hubspot.com/startups Subscribe to Mindstream newsletter ⁠https://www.mindstream.news Gamma ⁠https://gamma.app Grant Lee ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/grantslee/ Kristin Fracchia ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinfracchia/ Zapier ⁠https://zapier.com Make ⁠https://www.make.com/en N8N ⁠https://n8n.io Clay ⁠https://www.clay.com Granola ⁠https://www.granola.ai Wispr ⁠https://wisprflow.ai Kimi K2 ⁠https://www.kimi.com Timestamps 00:00 Innovating Beyond Product and Technology 06:15 AI Revolutionizing Creative Workflows 07:09 Evolution of Gamma Releases 13:03 Building Accessible AI Startups 15:47 AI Onboarding Misstep Lesson 17:46 AI Simplifies Slide Deck Creation 19:59 Automation, Branding, and AI Tools 23:24 AI, Creativity, and Onboarding 27:34 AI for Reverse-Engineering Marketing 31:01 AI Models Face Competitive Pressure Host Links: 📲Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar 📲Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke. About the Show Kipp Bodnar, HubSpot’s CMO and Kieran Flanagan Hubspot's SVP of Marketing, lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.

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