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When Two Filmmakers Make the Same Movie

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Start your free month of great cinema now at https://mubi.com/likestoriesofold How David Fincher gets under your skin. 0:00 Introduction: Two Movies, Same Story 2:42 I. Perverted Human Desire 6:30 II. Visualizing the Desire: The Gaze 11:27 III. Sustaining the Desire: Jouissance 17:51 IV. Confronting the Void: the Real 24:35 Epilogue: Living with Desire Watch this video ad-free on Nebula: https://nebula.tv/videos/lsoo-when-2-filmmakers-make-the-same-movie -- SUPPORT MY WORK -- Nebula: https://nebula.tv/lsoo Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LikeStoriesofOld Leave a One-Time Donation: https://www.paypal.me/TomvanderLinden -- FOLLOW ME -- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LikeStoriesofOld Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tom.vd.linden Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/tomvanderlinden.bsky.social Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/tomvanderlinden/ -- CONTACT -- Business inquiries: lsoo@standard.tv Say hi: likestoriesofold@gmail.com Music: Cultus - Between Mountains Makeup and Vanity Set - Descent Makeup and Vanity Set - System One Shawn Williams - Iconoclaste Makeup and Vanity Set - The Man Appears Jo Blankenburg - It's in the air painted shapes Tim Mann - All the Emotions Music licensed through Musicbed. Take your films to the next level with music from Musicbed. Sign up for a free account to listen for yourself: https://fm.pxf.io/c/3532571/1347628/16252

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In this video, I start with a simple provocation: two films can share an almost identical story engine—unsolved serial killer case, idealistic journalists, a helpful cop, a marriage strained by obsession—and still feel completely different. Boston Strangler (2023) is “restraint and thoughtful and respectful,” but to me it also ends up dull and forgettable. Zodiac, on the other hand, feels immaculately designed to get under your skin. So I use this near-match to ask what I think is the real question: what is David Fincher’s secret—what’s the deeper thematic force that makes his films feel strangely intrusive and intimate, like they’re touching some dark, forbidden truth? My answer runs through Lacan: perverted desire as a structural loop around an unsatisfiable lack; the gaze as the imagined perspective that’s cast back on us and distorts our sense of mastery; jouissance as the compulsive enjoyment that can include frustration and self-sabotage; and finally the Real—the void that resists symbolization. In Zodiac, the killer becomes less a solvable identity than an enigma that keeps reactivating desire through letters, ciphers, and institutional failure. Fincher weaponizes doubt to the end, confronting us with the lack itself—and by making us complicit in that loop, he momentarily helps us see how desire works, and how to live with it without pretending it can be “fixed.”

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