FREE Multifamily Investing Tools: https://www.derosagroup.com/tools Welcome to the Next Level CRE podcast on the Best Ever CRE Show! In this episode, Matt Faircloth sits down with seasoned real estate and alternative asset investor Jeremy Roll to discuss defensive investing strategies for 2024. Jeremy shares his insights on: Lessons learned from the 2008 recession and the COVID-19 pandemic. Why he’s been sitting on the sidelines since 2017. Why now could be the right time to sell before a potential market downturn. The best asset classes to invest in during an economic recession. How the real estate landscape has shifted post-pandemic and with rising interest rates. Whether you're a passive investor or a syndicator, this episode offers valuable perspectives on how to navigate today’s market uncertainties. 🚀 Listen to the Full Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jf3697-why-this-prolific-investor-is-sitting-on-the/id904025246?i=1000673542298 Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 0:57 - How Jeremy started investing in real estate and passive opportunities 2:16 - Changes in the real estate market post-pandemic and rising interest rates 3:06 - Jeremy’s defensive investing strategy since 2017 4:04 - Why the pandemic postponed a potential recession 5:25 - selling before the next downturn 6:41 - The impact of government stimulus on the economy and real estate 7:32 - Real estate asset classes that perform well during a recession 8:11 - How location and tenant base affect recession-proofing investments 10:16 - The potential compounded effect of a recession on real estate 10:34 - Closing thoughts

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